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[13:42:39] *** Joins: rubinovitz (~Adium@cpe-98-14-247-107.nyc.res.rr.com) [13:47:52] jinjabreed: 8PM EST [13:53:57] Aww man, got classes then : [13:54:55] the meeting is logged, if that helps [13:55:07] if you want to bring up a point you can post on the GH issue [13:56:49] Thanks, I'll read this week's logs to see how it goes and might contribute next time. [13:57:46] 👍 [13:59:02] *** Quits: jinjabreed (~arvind@wf097-187.ust.hk) (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2) [14:04:13] *** Joins: rubinovitz1 (~Adium@2604:2000:12c0:c1fb:bc97:1365:fcf7:8cc8) [14:12:00] *** Quits: rubinovitz (~Adium@cpe-98-14-247-107.nyc.res.rr.com) (*.net *.split) [14:13:02] *** Joins: majora (~majora@205.204.23.189) [14:13:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v majora [14:48:02] *** Quits: rubinovitz1 (~Adium@2604:2000:12c0:c1fb:bc97:1365:fcf7:8cc8) (Quit: Leaving.) [14:48:27] *** Joins: foobar__ (~majora@205.204.23.189) [14:48:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v foobar__ [14:48:29] *** Joins: rubinovitz (~Adium@2604:2000:12c0:c1fb:bc97:1365:fcf7:8cc8) [14:51:11] *** Quits: majora (~majora@205.204.23.189) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [14:53:15] *** Quits: rubinovitz (~Adium@2604:2000:12c0:c1fb:bc97:1365:fcf7:8cc8) (Client Quit) [14:56:17] we should probablky decide who is going to moderate the meeting tonight [14:56:44] it should probably be iangcarroll since Ari did the first one and I did the 2nd one [14:56:54] sounds good [14:58:14] yea [14:58:17] it should rotate [14:58:20] foobar__: are you majora? 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[15:46:36] yeah sorry I was afk [17:40:11] *** Quits: foobar__ (~majora@205.204.23.189) (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [17:55:56] *** Joins: majora (~majora@205.204.23.189) [17:55:56] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v majora [17:56:02] I don't think this post is good [17:56:03] Title: Log into Facebook | Facebook [17:56:08] iangcarroll [17:56:19] arirawr [17:56:50] i would agree, but cite something from the content policy before you close it [17:58:21] >Meta posts, or posts about the group and how it's being run should be posted in HX Meta, and not in the main group. One reason for this is while the main HX group may contain too many posts to leave notifications on, anyone interested in discussing administrative matters can leave notifications on for HX Meta and be notified of any important discussions. [17:58:32] I mean it's vague [17:58:33] af [17:58:35] and meta [17:58:52] what was the post [17:58:54] oh he removed it [17:59:11] someone was just like "So happy there is HX because HH is shit" [18:00:02] the context goes farther to say Henry commented on a post in HH looking for people to help volunteer and help with moderating a Bernie Sanders FB Group [18:00:24] in his comment he complained that it was off topic and that people should stop pushing socialism [18:02:58] see [18:03:07] the biggest problem i see for the future of HX [18:03:19] is that it's *really really* hard to say why a post is off topic [18:03:21] as we have seen [18:03:29] by struggling with the content policy [18:03:36] (don't know how far you got on it iangcarroll) [18:03:45] like, we *now* exactly what feels on/off topic [18:03:53] but listing it almost seems infeasible [18:03:56] enough to see that writing policies is not easy [18:04:00] like [18:04:06] look at government documents [18:04:11] they're hundreds of pages [18:04:16] we can't and shouldn't do that [18:04:26] but we also lose out on being specific [18:04:58] once I start working on the election app again, I might add a page before you can vote saying what admins are responsible for [18:05:06] like figuring out these edge cases [18:07:49] in the meantime [18:08:00] we should figure out a response on a case by case basis [18:08:02] i.e. [18:08:15] we agree henry's post was offtopic [18:08:21] let's figure out an answer for this case [18:19:12] yeah v true [18:25:42] *** Joins: rubinovitz (~Adium@cpe-98-14-247-107.nyc.res.rr.com) [18:28:17] *** Joins: arirawr2 (87135111@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.135.19.81.17) [18:29:15] I have a bad cold and will probably be going to bed soon/before ze admin meeting. If anyone has any ideas for how we can leverage hack.coop, a hacker cooperative I bought the domain name for but still only have rough bylaws for, let me know. Really interested in formally doing cooperative hacker stuff so the people who contribute will reap the rewards. I think that would be a great feedback loop. [18:48:08] *** Quits: arirawr (~arirawr@40.76.77.146) (Quit: Hedgehog out.) [18:53:49] *** arirawr2 is now known as arirawr [18:54:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v arirawr [18:57:03] *** Quits: rubinovitz (~Adium@cpe-98-14-247-107.nyc.res.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) [18:59:17] *** Joins: jfkingsley (519c857a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.156.133.122) [19:00:30] * arirawr is sick and may fall asleep during this meeting [19:01:23] * skasturi is hype for this meeting [19:02:04] Love it @skasturi. Who are you on Facebook lol? [19:02:12] arirawr: Srijay Kasturi [19:02:27] (y) [19:02:50] Meeting's gonna be more hype than Star Wars. [19:03:01] jfkingsley: impossible [19:03:12] Star Wars is maximum hyoe [19:03:21] **hype [19:03:23] but atleast we know what's going to happen before hand [19:03:35] With the meeting, or Star Wars? [19:03:53] Personally I think they're gonna bring Dumbledore back. [19:03:58] Actually, false. Pizza in my oven is maximum hype [19:04:16] But, the real question is what toppings @arirawr? [19:04:42] Just pepp. Classic. [19:04:57] Nice. [19:05:09] For some reason over here we call that American. Never understood why. [19:05:14] what? [19:05:16] TIL [19:05:46] If you ask for an "American" in a british pizza place you get pepperoni [19:06:12] Admittedly, it is an american sausage, so there's some logic to it [19:07:09] Fascinating [19:08:15] hi [19:08:15] ​iangcarroll [19:08:25] hi cydrobolt [19:08:30] ugh, that trigger for hi is still set lol [19:08:33] !trigger [19:08:33] ​no [19:08:34] bonjour arirawr [19:08:35] !triggers [19:08:37] hey skasturi [19:08:37] !trigger help [19:08:41] !trigger remove hi [19:08:45] !help [19:08:45] iangcarroll: Commands: http://git.io/38F1qA - Use !help for info. [19:08:51] cydrobolt: did you get meetbot running? [19:08:59] skasturi, should I? [19:09:00] !trigger rm hi [19:09:00] iangcarroll: Deleted the response associated with 'hi'. [19:09:12] i believe we're going to discuss using it today [19:09:17] and then use it in the future [19:09:21] if we decide to [19:09:24] salut cydrobolt ! [19:09:26] gotcha [19:09:46] *** Joins: SamuelKelemen (442396c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.35.150.201) [19:09:53] skasturi, I can bring in a demo if you'd like [19:09:54] Yo SamuelKelemen [19:09:59] hi SamuelKelemen [19:10:07] Ola mi amigos [19:10:26] Hey @iangcarroll [19:10:30] * iangcarroll waves [19:10:43] Long time no see [19:10:48] Oi arirawr y cydrobolt [19:10:52] indeed [19:11:02] Thought i'd drop by and throw my 2p into the conversation later [19:11:10] *** Joins: okulkarni (~okulkarni@givemethe.science) [19:11:19] *** Parts: okulkarni (~okulkarni@givemethe.science) ("WeeChat 1.4") [19:11:24] i'm in too many timezones. Is the meeting now, or in an hour? [19:11:49] neither [19:11:53] 49 minutes [19:11:55] :P [19:12:03] Ay carumba [19:12:42] How is the weather in Canada? [19:14:55] *** Joins: rubinovitz (~Adium@2604:2000:12c0:c1fb:e9f6:9925:c4b1:d0b3) [19:15:16] *** Quits: rubinovitz (~Adium@2604:2000:12c0:c1fb:e9f6:9925:c4b1:d0b3) (Client Quit) [19:15:52] SamuelKelemen: surprisingly warm [19:15:56] above freezing [19:16:00] no snow [19:16:12] =) It's above freezing here, too [19:16:21] No snow; just tornadoes [19:16:31] such fun [19:16:36] Ditto [19:16:41] =) [19:16:41] We /had/ snow, but then things got boring. [19:16:52] lol, where? [19:16:56] UK [19:17:09] man, all you guys above the 40th [19:17:12] About three days, and then suddenly Spring out of onwhere [19:17:26] Do you guys have groundhogs day? [19:17:33] Nope [19:17:40] =/ lame [19:17:50] We have cute animals, here [19:18:01] shameless plug: Hedgehog Hackers [19:18:02] it's 80f here [19:18:06] We have bobcats, and owls and hawks and stuff [19:18:09] it's 74 here [19:18:11] It's slightly more feral [19:18:14] we have alligators [19:18:16] and white trash [19:18:23] Majora, are you in FL? [19:18:28] unfortunately [19:18:33] It's about 36 over here [19:18:33] im in AL [19:18:44] lol, it's 23 here [19:18:46] oh that's a hard competition then [19:18:50] Fun.. [19:18:50] yeah [19:18:57] Mississippi is worse [19:19:06] did you elect to go to school in Bama? [19:19:09] Used to be 24, and then NYC stole our snow [19:19:11] yeah [19:19:15] my dad wanted me to go to UA and I'm like nothanksfam [19:19:18] c'est vraiment chaud ici [19:19:26] presque 15 degrées [19:19:29] ...thought it'd be more like Georgia or N. Carolina [19:19:34] :o [19:19:36] where you wrong? [19:19:41] very [19:19:48] it's like mississippi, here [19:19:49] what year are you [19:19:55] 3rd. [19:19:59] almost done [19:20:03] but i have senior and a half credits [19:20:15] that's good then [19:20:19] yeah, might move back to Montreal [19:20:25] I think I saw some dude comment on your thing [19:20:29] Ian [19:20:33] yeah... [19:20:36] does he go to school there? [19:20:38] he is in the navy [19:20:43] no, Cleveland, Oh [19:20:45] yeah the marines [19:20:46] oh I see [19:20:56] i saw Shawn took care of it, lol [19:21:10] lol I was going to comment something but I saw that too [19:21:18] https://www.facebook.com/skynews/videos/1260512280630033/ [19:21:19] Title: Sky News - Scottish Police Teach US Cops Not To Shoot | Facebook [19:21:42] it was an interesting video for sure [19:21:49] Ian: Where's the video of black people from the US being shown by black people from the UK on how to not break the law? [19:22:06] -> Shawn: Well you're a piece of shit, it seems. [19:23:12] majora, are you 21? [19:23:16] cydrobolt: C ou F? [19:23:18] for now yes [19:23:22] C [19:23:22] Celsius 23 [19:23:46] we should grab drinks sometime, if you're into that kind of thing [19:23:48] SamuelKelemen: yes. come back to MTL. [19:24:04] SamuelKelemen idk who that was directed at [19:24:08] You [19:24:14] you, but anyone who drinks [19:24:14] je vis aux É. U maintenant, mais c'est trop difficile de changer à farenheit :( [19:24:35] 100 degrées ça ne fait pas de sens [19:24:38] cydrobolt: haha, j'sais :P [19:24:40] yeah well if we're ever in the same place I drink more than I should [19:24:42] I'm a global person. I travel often, so If anyone wants to grab a drink in Canada, et al, hmu [19:25:02] I'll be back in Canada next summer :D [19:25:03] woo [19:25:06] HX Ski Trip [19:25:08] hyped [19:25:10] oooooh [19:25:16] HX SKI TRIP +10 [19:25:16] skiing is the best [19:25:16] I'd be down for that. [19:25:23] I remember skiing once in my life [19:25:29] in Terrebone ~2010 [19:25:29] Something something tremblant, or somewhere in VT [19:25:34] i skii'd until I snowboarded.. [19:25:35] YES [19:25:38] MONT TREMBLANT [19:25:42] yisss [19:25:45] and I snowboarded until I shattered both of my wrists [19:25:46] I think I'd be rich in CAD [19:25:47] tremblant or sugarbush [19:25:52] sugarbush is in vermont [19:25:53] I've done it a few times - mostly in France though so Canada would be fun to explore [19:25:53] something something 18 drinking age [19:26:10] I have a house in vermont... [19:26:12] lol majora...I get paid in USD. It's baller [19:26:14] if any of y'all stop by Whistler over the summer [19:26:15] yo [19:26:18] arirawr, awww [19:26:19] Snowboarding I never saw the appeal of. Definitely cooler for tricks though. [19:26:21] that's so nice! [19:26:29] I think I'm going to get paid in CAD over the summer [19:26:31] i did the tricks lol [19:26:31] rip conversion rate [19:26:32] :( [19:26:42] Conversion rates suck [19:26:43] rip paying double taxes [19:26:44] lol [19:26:44] whois cyrdrobolt [19:26:54] Join the dark side...steal the Americans' money... [19:26:59] usa tax + tax == [19:27:05] a lot of $ [19:27:06] lol [19:27:08] and spend it on poutine [19:27:20] la banquise >>> [19:27:22] Putin* [19:27:30] yissss vishwin [19:27:39] What exactly is Poutine? [19:27:42] Never seemed to grasp the concept. [19:27:45] it's like french fries with gravy [19:27:47] fries + cheese [19:27:47] fries with gravy and cheese curds [19:27:49] + gravy [19:27:54] + delicious [19:27:54] President of Russia @jfkingsley [19:27:55] at the very least [19:27:59] HAHA [19:28:01] No. [19:28:09] He made GLONASS free and open [19:28:12] It's quebecois drunk food [19:28:16] lol [19:28:22] and it's fucking delish [19:28:24] I wish I had picked up a quebec accent [19:28:25] I wish we had more Tim Horton's in the states [19:28:25] hence why la banquise is open 24/7 [19:28:27] That makes far more sense @arirawr [19:28:37] Ha...no you don't cydrobolt [19:28:43] they only accept cash and canadian debit cards… [19:28:43] my sister owns a tim hortons [19:28:46] now when people hear that I'm from quebec they ask "mais ou est ton accent??" [19:29:05] where is it from? [19:29:08] you outsider :P [19:29:11] You Canadians should help me with my french... HX French [19:29:19] si tu veux [19:29:48] la conjugaison française est vrm difficile à te rappler [19:29:57] ha [19:30:06] I just guess most of the time [19:30:12] Je veux parler francais [19:30:16] same [19:30:23] luckily no one here speaks correctly anyway [19:30:29] lolol [19:30:34] yeah, when you actually live there noone speaks correctly [19:30:44] but when you're learning it as a foreign language [19:30:54] everyone wants you to know the exact spellings and grammar hah [19:30:54] oh, good fucking luck [19:31:02] cualquier altavoz español? [19:31:04] SamuelKelemen, bonne chance [19:31:07] Yeah.. I've heard some.. interesting things about Quebecois [19:31:10] lol [19:31:16] try saguenay french, not many can understand that accent too well [19:31:16] SamuelKelemen, me gusta [19:31:21] Mostly along the lines of "This makes no fucking sense" [19:31:32] vishwin, je suis allé à Tadoussac une fois [19:31:39] mais pas à Saguenay [19:32:07] I've heard about saguenay lol [19:32:18] cyrdobolt, i friended you on fb [19:32:21] cool [19:32:29] I closed FB to study but forgot to close IRC! ;) [19:32:38] happy to stay on my little bilingual urban island away from the scary QCois [19:32:44] "I forge software" [19:32:53] SamuelKelemen, don't judge hahaha [19:33:01] "hand crafted, with love" [19:33:20] where is that? [19:33:25] that part doesn't exist :) [19:33:45] lolol [19:33:47] I would've totally added "crafted w/ love" if it wasn't already so overused [19:33:55] it does on mine [19:34:07] oh yeah, back like a few days before christmas eve, me and my next door neighbour in philly who goes to UVM took a montreal day trip [19:34:08] I think it says "Hand crafted with care" [19:34:11] idk [19:34:22] ontarian in front of us in the line for la banquise asks us where we from [19:34:22] SamuelKelemen, what about when it's not actually hand crafted [19:34:36] friend says burlington for vermont, but the guy thinks burlington ontario [19:34:39] XD [19:34:42] vishwin, I like ontario [19:34:45] "hand crafted, with robots" [19:34:49] so nice [19:35:04] last time I was in waterloo really took advantage of those conversion rates hahaha [19:35:19] arirawr, yeah [19:35:29] insane that you're forced to learn french in schools though! [19:35:40] I took money out of the ATM that day, said I like CAD$214 left haha [19:35:41] name my site, "robotsdottxt" by robots, for robots [19:35:42] it sounds like the english education in secondary schools is decent [19:35:44] learn is an overstatement [19:35:50] arirawr, yes [19:36:00] I remember speaking to my friends in another language during my time in mtl [19:36:02] I liked French. [19:36:05] I went to school outside of qc [19:36:07] and I got a detention [19:36:09] Probably the only person in my class who did [19:36:28] i got expelled. [19:36:30] twice. [19:36:30] @cydrobolt Well that's idiotic. [19:36:39] For..? [19:36:45] speaking not french LO [19:36:48] went to school in Saint Laurent until secondary school, hah [19:36:48] *:P [19:36:56] ville st-laurent>? [19:37:00] non [19:37:07] Nuts. [19:37:11] saint laurent....à coté de rue Décarie [19:37:23] proche de l'aéroport [19:37:29] ah [19:37:35] family friend of my parents lives along boul de la sources [19:37:46] subway stop Du Collège [19:37:48] they don't speak any french yet their daughter got sent to french school [19:38:01] vishwin, classe de bienvenue ;) [19:38:03] used to work near there cydrobolt [19:38:10] arirawr, that's cool [19:38:13] it's a nice area [19:38:27] More of a ville-marie girl myself ;) [19:38:41] used to know that area by heart [19:38:54] Yeah vishwin it's brutal for newcomers :( [19:39:07] they're not exactly new haha [19:39:50] they at least know namur is their nearest metro station [19:40:10] like people who move here, have kids, and get their kids sent to FR school [19:40:14] lol namur [19:40:16] Comment est Mont-Tremblant? [19:40:19] there's poutine there [19:40:44] Inside a giant orange [19:40:55] Just Namur things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibeau_Orange_Julep [19:40:56] Title: Gibeau Orange Julep - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [19:41:49] ou Stoneham? [19:42:12] I've been told by my ski instructor bf that tremblant is awesome [19:42:19] I haven't been yet [19:42:28] Definitely going this month [19:43:09] =( [19:43:19] Je veux aller! [19:43:50] me and UVM friend *planned* on hitting up tremblant between the end of finals and christmas eve [19:43:59] but we looked at the snow reports and nope.avi [19:44:20] It's been a pretty bad Skiing season all things considered [19:44:22] plus their sale rates expired on his last day of finals [19:44:24] =( Same. I was going to chill with some friends in Quebec, but nope [19:44:38] so we hit up montreal proper then noped it down to sugarbush instead [19:44:51] would it be too much to ask to have social conversations in #hx? [19:45:00] #yes [19:45:02] :( [19:45:03] lol [19:45:11] we have to blow up the logs at some point [19:46:01] There was a defcon talk about that if I recall [19:46:19] Where the guy wrote a system that recorded an entire channels' conversation then played it back using individual bots [19:46:28] And nobody noticed because all the conversations were real [19:46:36] I'm not allowed to use the phrase "blow up", anymore [19:47:08] @SamuelKelemen, too many watchlists? [19:47:28] so far, today's log of *this* channel stands at 24 KiB [19:47:39] Not bad [19:47:40] yeah, a crazy in HH Politics reported me to the FBI for "being a terrorist" and "wanting to blow up his building" [19:47:41] jfkingsley isn't in the other channel [19:47:52] and with that I will catch this at work in like 15. [19:48:10] crap, i can't invite people [19:48:14] why do you need to have op for that? [19:48:19] True, but most people wouldn't want me around anyway [19:48:32] It's an IRC flag, most people throw it on by default for private chans [19:48:40] right, but this isn't a private chan [19:48:44] nor is ##hx [19:48:52] Odd [19:51:02] same thing applies [19:51:44] vishwin: you control this, correct? [19:51:52] can we turn on invite for normal users? [19:52:14] let me get to work first haha [19:52:26] lol, kk [19:56:36] huheuheuhe brbrbr [19:57:15] t moins trois [19:58:47] let's do this [19:59:17] une moment [19:59:40] une minute* [20:00:41] ok it's 8PM EST [20:00:44] iangcarroll: arirawr majora ready? [20:00:49] alright [20:00:54] iangcarroll: is moderator? [20:00:58] yes [20:00:59] sounds good [20:01:16] yeah [20:01:19] set topic to agenda plz [20:01:20] let me pull up the agenda [20:01:41] and merge it [20:01:53] my phone is dead for 2FA; can majora or arirawr? [20:02:01] can't wait until we get meeting bot [20:02:05] what a meme [20:02:25] what all do I need to do? [20:02:31] go to the PR and click merge [20:02:32] lol [20:02:34] merge agenda [20:02:38] then put it in the topic [20:02:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o iangcarroll [20:02:45] I got it [20:03:16] merged [20:03:17] Title: meetings/meeting-02-02-2016.md at master · wearehx/meetings · GitHub [20:03:21] *** iangcarroll changes topic to 'Hackers administration matters | https://github.com/wearehx | Mods are voiced | Meeting minutes: https://github.com/wearehx/meetings/blob/master/agendas/meeting-02-02-2016.md | Admin policy draft: https://git.io/v06vT' [20:03:23] *** Joins: m0shbear (~011899988@servbox.moshbear.net) [20:03:32] Nice! [20:03:35] *** iangcarroll changes topic to 'Hackers administration matters | https://github.com/wearehx | Mods are voiced | Current meeting agenda: https://github.com/wearehx/meetings/blob/master/agendas/meeting-02-02-2016.md | Admin policy draft: https://git.io/v06vT' [20:03:40] *** iangcarroll sets mode: -o iangcarroll [20:03:45] Alright then.. It's showtime [20:03:46] First up is subgroups [20:03:49] *** Joins: vishwin60 (~chatzilla@wikimedia/O) [20:03:50] Hi [20:03:56] anyone want to start? [20:04:00] iangcarroll: can you go over rules first [20:04:03] for new people [20:04:06] or just [20:04:13] generally how we do this and when to butt in [20:04:17] kk [20:05:30] so, I'll go over each item on our agenda one by one, anyone listed, or if nobody, usually an admin, will start the discussion off, and then anyone can usually give their opinion. then the admins will field questions at the end [20:05:44] that was poorly worded [20:05:46] https://github.com/wearehx/meetings/compare/master...SCKelemen:patch-1 [20:05:46] Title: Comparing wearehx:master...SCKelemen:patch-1 · wearehx/meetings · GitHub [20:05:51] Nah, makes sense [20:05:55] but please try to be considerate about who's talking [20:06:07] i.e. IRC doesn't tell you who's typing [20:06:14] yeah [20:06:15] and we try to move in an orderly fashion too [20:06:16] so if it seems like someone is typing a long thought [20:06:18] let them [20:06:20] yes [20:06:22] ok [20:06:24] Basically, you guys bring up the topic, start the discussion, and then we pseudo-debate it without being idiots, close it off and continue [20:06:24] so, any questions you should probably PM me so we can move on in this channel [20:06:33] first up is subgroups [20:06:37] https://github.com/wearehx/policies/issues/12 [20:06:37] Title: Policies for Subgroups · Issue #12 · wearehx/policies · GitHub [20:06:42] *** Joins: rubinovitz (~Adium@2604:2000:12c0:c1fb:e9f6:9925:c4b1:d0b3) [20:06:48] there is some discussion of subgroups in that issue [20:06:48] we essentially want to determine how we officially deal with subgroups [20:07:05] Oui. [20:07:05] shall i summarize that issue iangcarroll? [20:07:10] yeah [20:07:17] alright [20:07:22] so here is one side of the argument [20:07:37] HH subgroups had almost no HH admin control [20:07:47] at least, for the three or four subgroups I was very involved in [20:07:50] HH was only in the name [20:08:01] and the benefit to the groups was the stream of members coming in from HH [20:08:09] because the groups were advertised in comments in HH [20:08:12] and in the sidebar [20:08:26] so in terms of administration, a subgroup is completely independent [20:08:38] the other observation is that subgroups foster community [20:08:44] where as the main group has thousands of members [20:08:50] usually subgroups stay in the hundreds [20:08:57] who mostly know each other [20:09:09] finally, subgroups all a subscription model to content [20:09:22] i.e. while a group like HX has different types of posts [20:09:27] and you may not care about all of them [20:09:39] there may be a topic (like security for example) that you want to be notified of all posts for [20:09:47] so these are the benefits of subgroups [20:09:52] the flip side of the argument [20:10:04] is that these good posts that posted in subgroups should be posted in the main group [20:10:12] to increase the quality of posts in the main group [20:10:26] especially in a new group, where the number of posts is already low [20:10:32] that's the end of my summary [20:10:40] I don't think we should try to federate them but we should allow people to identify as HX subroups. But to be officially recognized I feel we should take the standard of 250+ people HH did. We should also allow HH subgroups to act as HX subgroups if they so want. But we should be less willing to push all discussion to subgroups because I feel that got quite annoying and can help the main group (which gsingh93 seems to agree with). [20:10:43] i am for subgroups, in the independent style i described [20:10:57] +1 frank [20:11:21] i'm fine with that [20:11:24] i.e. [20:11:24] so, I think we're all in agreement about that [20:11:24] same [20:11:30] let's have them [20:11:33] I expressed at the last meeting that I think HX needs more content before it can be siloed...how do you aim to encourage posting in HX [20:11:37] I disagree with the 250 count [20:11:39] but don't force people to push convos to subgroups [20:11:50] we have hardly 1k members. [20:11:50] +1 with majora on that [20:11:51] There's always going to be groups of people with specific interests that can't be discussed in one massive arena without significant problems in terms of miscommunication. [20:11:53] HH didn't really do anything and yet they aren't really suffering membership wise [20:12:01] (re: arirawr) [20:12:05] ^^ [20:12:14] well I think ruby posts should be in HX and there is no need for HX Ruby [20:12:31] but there is a need for HX Music because I don't care what music you're listening to and that is probably off topic [20:12:41] HH was a bit more open re membership than us afaif [20:12:43] majora: a ruby post in HX will have a different sort of discussion than a post in HX ruby [20:12:45] We should ask subs to message to the main group though, on creation. So that we can compile a list of subs [20:12:51] we're not limiting membership vishwin60 [20:12:56] only filtering spam [20:13:14] right… [20:13:15] gsingh93 I think if they're both filled wiht the same great ruby people it should include the HX Ruby convo + more from tons of others [20:13:29] majora: ideally yes, but that's actually not what will happen [20:13:32] because of the subscription model [20:13:40] i.e. many great ruby people will never see your post [20:13:47] true [20:13:49] because of the nature of large groups like HX [20:13:58] some people will unfollow HX vs not unfollow HX Ruby [20:14:00] i have notifications turned on for *all* of my subgroups [20:14:02] it's wonderful [20:14:24] I was like 95% subs, and <5% HH [20:14:25] i currently have notifications on for HX [20:14:28] but that's temporrary [20:14:32] i plan to turn it off in the future [20:14:34] I think there's definitely something to be said for highly specific topic threads though. A significant portion of the HX community isn't necessarily going to be interested in a lot of these more focused things, which may in turn cause people to leave HX due to content overload. [20:14:49] agreed [20:14:53] okay well I think let's have them but not push programming / hacking related posts to subgroups. but if it is a non-hacking related post we push it to it's subgroup [20:14:57] so, we will maintain a list of high-membership groups, but we will not redirect policy-compliant posts [20:14:59] majora: agreed [20:15:05] they should be there so you have the option [20:15:11] but no one should be forced there [20:15:13] ^^ [20:15:15] although, *recommendations* are fine [20:15:25] because they might get better answers [20:15:27] I'll create a page to list the subs with a search [20:15:32] so what are our next steps here? [20:15:33] Exactly, they're more optional than required to discuss topics [20:15:37] SamuelKelemen: please hold off [20:15:41] until we declare some action items [20:15:43] yeah but we need to make it so members can't say "Take your ruby post to HX Ruby" but instead "Maybe try HX Ruby since no one answered it yet" [20:15:47] we need a threshold for group membership count [20:15:50] majora: agreed [20:15:53] I'd say around 250 [20:15:58] as admins, focus on enforcing that [20:16:03] 250 is going to be impossible [20:16:05] that is 25% of all the members in HX, so I dunno [20:16:07] 250 is 1/4 or so of HX... [20:16:10] +1 @gsingh93 [20:16:15] let's go with 150 [20:16:18] how about, if it contains a "significant number" [20:16:19] Aight [20:16:26] Yes, but what defines significant [20:16:29] i think a documented threshold is a good idea here [20:16:31] leave it up to interpretation [20:16:37] IMO for better or worse we need a constant [20:16:38] 1/10 the size of HX [20:16:39] lmao [20:16:49] why don't we start on the smaller side? [20:16:52] the only thing that matters though, is if HX will list it? [20:16:53] and then scale up as we need to? [20:17:05] wasn't the HH subgroup threshold like only 100 at one time? [20:17:07] Yes SamuelKelemen [20:17:09] I'd agree with hat [20:17:10] *that [20:17:13] yes vishwin60 [20:17:16] because we are saying that HX subs can exist with out HX approval [20:17:22] yes [20:17:25] So start at 100 and re-evaluate it later down the line? [20:17:26] well it won't be officially recognized [20:17:31] we don't own a registered trademark on HX [20:17:31] w/e that means [20:17:35] lol [20:17:39] lol [20:17:53] so we will have some list? [20:17:54] We own "We Are HX" [20:18:03] *** Joins: zeusk (9076e48a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.144.118.228.138) [20:18:04] and if they have over 100 and request it [20:18:07] hi guise [20:18:08] we add their group to the list? [20:18:10] maybe official subgroup leaders get free memes or something [20:18:18] yes gsingh93 [20:18:25] Are we going to bring up the topic of support/tooling, or since they're not going to be technically official that's now off the books? [20:18:32] are all admins in agreement? [20:18:34] jfkingsley: what? [20:18:39] 100 is fine [20:18:44] 100 is fine [20:18:52] 100 *and* an appropriate topic [20:18:58] we need to update content policy so people can't say "just use the subgroup" too [20:19:06] so that needs to be added to a todo [20:19:07] arirawr: how do we decide what's appropriate? [20:19:10] "HX should give the subgroup admins tools to help them perform their duties, and maintain a high quality, content driven, group and community. This, in turn, will have positive effect on HX as a whole." [20:19:19] don't think we have any tools to give [20:19:22] Yeah.. [20:19:23] yea... [20:19:25] nor do we want to invest a lot of time in them [20:19:28] yea [20:19:29] I did wonder what exactly was meant there [20:19:33] no offense to subgroups or anything [20:19:48] gsingh93: common sense...illegal stuff etc [20:19:49] Focus efforts on the main group first IMO [20:19:51] we'll give them dank memes [20:19:52] arirawr: ah [20:19:55] agreed [20:19:59] I just meant giving the sub hackbot if they want it [20:20:01] @majora +1 [20:20:11] well, they can download hackbot themselves [20:20:12] SamuelKelemen: it's open source [20:20:12] I mean, anybody can setup their own instance of Hackbot, right? [20:20:15] Yeah [20:20:17] any tools made for HX should be available by request to the subs [20:20:18] we don't need to give anyone anything [20:20:24] requests aren't necessary [20:20:28] just take them [20:20:33] Aight [20:20:42] okay [20:20:46] I think the main point is we advertise them in some way [20:20:47] we're in agreement then [20:20:48] okay sorry [20:21:01] next, should I make a repo with a list? [20:21:17] yes [20:21:26] sidebar = more visibility [20:21:27] kk; PRs should work fine for submitting groups [20:21:33] definitely sidebar too [20:21:41] alright [20:21:48] iangcarroll: make sure you're writing down TODOs like majora did last time [20:21:53] will do [20:22:02] So basically mirror the repo to the Sidebar list [20:22:15] yes but who ever buys us beer is at the top [20:22:19] lol [20:22:27] ready to move on? [20:22:28] try to make it as transparent as possible, imo [20:22:29] okay, I think we're set on this [20:22:29] Is that democratic..? [20:22:31] :P [20:22:41] there exists consensus [20:22:44] jfkingsley it's like lobbying [20:22:45] let's move on [20:22:50] next is spam prevention [20:22:52] Todo: post about how to submit [20:22:54] is ngomez here? [20:23:11] *** Quits: zeusk (9076e48a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.144.118.228.138) (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [20:23:19] from github: "Spam prevention and reviewing join requests from potential spammers should probably be discussed during the meeting as well." [20:23:29] well [20:23:30] @majora We're going to end up with a bunch of subgroups starting Bernie Sanders like grassroots campaigns /s [20:23:33] i guess I can address that if he's not here [20:23:35] his nick isn't here [20:23:39] ngomez is [20:23:47] go ahead [20:23:53] unless he pops up later [20:23:55] ^ [20:23:57] someone should fb message him [20:24:00] incase he forgot [20:24:01] it's fine [20:24:01] (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [20:24:02] Title: KiwiIRC - The webIRC client [20:24:04] he doesn't *need* to lead this [20:24:17] we would be discussin the issue anyway [20:24:41] kk; right now I am checking profiles and only denying profiles that are suspicious (no posts, odd friends, etc) [20:24:53] Personally I haven't been accepting many unless I know them [20:25:01] The other ones disappear from the list [20:25:02] I only allow people with mutual friends or who look like fun spammers [20:25:06] in the last week or so things have been better [20:25:11] but I stopped allowing fun spammers [20:25:17] -_- [20:25:20] ... [20:25:22] .... [20:25:24] the question is do we need a proceedure for reviewing profiles [20:25:29] and do we need to ban majora [20:25:32] /s [20:25:35] no and yes [20:25:37] haha [20:25:44] this isn't a border [20:25:55] i think we should all be on the same page [20:25:57] the admins that is [20:26:00] yes [20:26:00] on what each of you guys do [20:26:03] Common sense reigns again here [20:26:04] and when someone gets in [20:26:09] figure out who let them in [20:26:12] and how it happened [20:26:12] i guess I'm the only one here approving the random joins lol [20:26:13] I mean, the real question is do we have enough possible rules to - Figuring out if somebody's gonna spam or not is pretty subjective [20:26:14] not as like a shaming thing [20:26:22] jfkingsley: not in most cases [20:26:28] the people who have been causing trouble [20:26:28] I try to make sure they have mutual friends, next I go to their profile to see if there is anything CS or hacker related [20:26:31] have 0 mutual friends [20:26:37] or made a profile a few days ago [20:26:40] I do what majora does [20:26:44] very selective [20:26:45] Yeah, true - I meant more inasmuch as there's no 100% objective way to figure it out [20:26:46] cool [20:26:48] are y'all able to see if $person has any friends in the group? [20:26:52] yes [20:26:52] yeah [20:26:53] yes [20:27:03] even us plebes can [20:27:05] in a way [20:27:06] That's probably a decent indicator then [20:27:15] there are a lot of legitimate profiles without that though [20:27:15] no, what if you hear about HX at a hackathon [20:27:19] or at least, profiles not spamming [20:27:24] I'm not worried about this at all folks [20:27:27] I remember some hackathons advertised HH we might get that big [20:27:48] this is just an extra thing, but if you do accidently let someone in, do me a favor and send me their profile [20:27:58] I remember YHack had a CdT chromecast going but that's CdT, not us [20:28:00] lol, do you want me to send you the obvious spam profiles? [20:28:06] iangcarroll: yea [20:28:10] Pretty sure we're on the same page. [20:28:10] I mean we've been v good about removing spammers I think this happened when someone asked about hacking and then Shane Creighton-Young was like "guys hack is a language" and they clearly meant hacking fB and it was a big problem [20:28:11] kk [20:28:26] so, consensus is common sense? [20:28:35] Pretty much [20:28:36] yes [20:28:37] and no proceedure is really needed [20:28:38] wouldn't phrase it as common sense but sure [20:28:43] indeed [20:28:50] kk [20:28:55] procedure is keep doing what you're doing [20:29:01] tl;dr, don't let the guy with the job title "H4xer at Anonymous LTD" in. [20:29:02] hackbot posting to github is next; gsingh93 has that [20:29:03] NGomez is unavailable. =/ [20:29:08] if it really becomes a problem and you deny someone that wants to be in I'm sure they'll DM us [20:29:14] wait, i need to read my comment here on the PR [20:29:19] like in what context did i say thing [20:29:21] this*( [20:29:28] kk [20:29:35] coffee break [20:29:42] One thing to talk about: hackbot posts to github when it deletes a post, but I don't think we can do more fine grained deletion, like comments." [20:29:49] hm [20:29:50] ah, i remember now [20:29:51] wanna test? [20:29:57] oh, /delete is off [20:29:57] add it as a TODO item [20:29:59] one second [20:30:00] kk [20:30:06] but yea [20:30:10] just wanted to point out [20:30:13] alright [20:30:16] that we want to be transparent [20:30:22] so we can use the /delete command [20:30:24] seems fair [20:30:24] which gets logged [20:30:28] but if it doesn't work for comments [20:30:30] that's an issue [20:30:33] We can't as in it would clog memory or as in there literally isn't API access? [20:30:38] because we can't delete comments without logs [20:30:40] hackbot might not support it [20:30:44] Ahh [20:30:48] next up is number of admins being odd (@gsingh93) [20:30:51] ok [20:30:53] well [20:30:55] the issue speaks for itself [20:31:06] I agree with it [20:31:06] should we require an odd number of admins in the admin policy? [20:31:09] to avoid deadlocks? [20:31:13] ah [20:31:14] as long as we're not adding an admin for the sake of odd numbers [20:31:16] i think it makes sense [20:31:21] I'm ambivalent [20:31:22] Can I still add things to the PR? [20:31:24] skasturi: we will be [20:31:31] well, it got merged [20:31:33] that just means it'll be 3-> 5-> 7 -> 9 as we grow [20:31:36] etc [20:31:39] usually you just wait until the end samuel [20:31:39] yes [20:31:56] so majora is in agreement, arirawr doesn't mind [20:31:59] i agree w/ the odd one [20:32:01] cool [20:32:06] kk [20:32:09] Using MeetBot (@cydrobolt) [20:32:11] I'll throw my hat in the ring too. [20:32:11] add it to the list [20:32:13] cydrobolt [20:32:28] I prefer odd numbers [20:32:33] is cydrobolt here? [20:32:34] SamuelKelemen: topic has ended [20:32:43] but we should make the requirement prime numbers [20:32:46] lemme message him on FB [20:32:47] sigh... [20:32:48] well we didn't give people a chance to talk [20:32:52] @gsingh93 =( [20:33:03] well, blame iangcarroll :P [20:33:10] RIP [20:33:11] say it SamuelKelemen [20:33:13] * iangcarroll looks around nervously [20:33:22] Nah, just continue [20:33:27] lol oh [20:33:29] >prime numbers [20:33:30] also, i'm assuming prime numbers was a joke [20:33:31] I'll bitch about it in the future [20:33:31] nty [20:33:38] let's try to keep this serious guys [20:33:45] okay, so we will keep going [20:33:49] and see if he joins us later on [20:33:51] we can talk about meetbot still [20:33:52] i think odd numbers is valid, but yes:: continue [20:33:55] * majora kicks a tire [20:34:01] again, we don't need him here [20:34:02] everyone should read https://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot [20:34:03] Title: MeetBot - Debian Wiki [20:34:04] * jfkingsley lights the tyre on fire [20:34:07] * arirawr kicks majora [20:34:18] i think we should just setup MeetBot [20:34:19] would it require supybot? [20:34:23] and try it [20:34:27] yes it would [20:34:27] we should probably pause for a second [20:34:34] and let people read the page [20:34:36] Personally, as much as I love Automating things, I do not trust stuff like that over an actual person taking notes. [20:34:45] what do you mean by trust? [20:34:49] would we be able to run it on the same server as yossarian bot? [20:34:52] There's too much of a possibility of potentially lost information because somebody didn't tag the bot [20:34:59] woodruffw: ty? [20:35:00] server's eventually cost money.. [20:35:03] yt* [20:35:07] i vote that we should try out meetbot at the next meeting [20:35:07] I would prefer to have someone take old fashioned notes [20:35:18] I have free access to servers [20:35:19] arirawr: would you be against trying this? [20:35:29] Which is why I volunteered to provide hosting to HX [20:35:32] let's give it a trial run of one meeting, with a person still taking notes during said trial run [20:35:32] well, there goes that pause [20:35:40] no, but it sounds harder to set up than one of you just taking notes [20:35:48] it's fairly easy to setup [20:35:50] i can do it [20:35:51] i have a supybot [20:35:53] I think giving it a trial is fine if someone wants to set it up, I'm not setting it up [20:35:54] i can set it up [20:35:54] but i'd prefer if woodruffw did [20:35:59] to keep the bots in the same spot [20:36:00] yea [20:36:04] like five of us can do it [20:36:04] * arirawr still wants human notes [20:36:15] arirawr: that human can just make sure things are added to meetbot [20:36:16] arirawr: sure, but we can do a test run of meetbot [20:36:21] where someone also takes human notes [20:36:23] I gues..... [20:36:25] how does that sound? [20:36:29] sounds cool to me [20:36:35] why not chuck a log of all lines at IBM Watson (R) and have it turn into a quasi-human logger? :) [20:36:37] no one has stepped up to take human notes thus far though.... [20:36:38] we'd also need a way to limit it to voiced people [20:36:39] But doesn't that defeat the whole point of it.. @iangcarroll [20:36:50] At that point you've basically made a bot to copy/paste logs to google docs [20:36:55] arirawr: then meetbot makes a lot of sense... [20:36:58] Just slightly more complex [20:37:00] iangcarroll: supybot has permission levels etc so that can happen [20:37:00] either volunteer to take human notes [20:37:06] or just use a bot to make it easier [20:37:07] jfkingsley: just making sure people don't forget, not really any work there [20:37:16] I can't take minutes when I'm part of the discussion [20:37:20] but w/e [20:37:23] well an irc bot makes it easier [20:37:29] to do while discussing [20:37:35] admin vote on trying it next meeting? [20:37:40] abstain [20:37:47] i vote yes [20:37:49] yes [20:37:50] if majora says no [20:37:51] I can take notes if its super important [20:37:53] we have a tie [20:37:55] lol [20:37:56] k, we're good [20:38:01] (y) [20:38:04] SamuelKelemen: sure [20:38:06] gsingh93 will set it up? [20:38:09] sure [20:38:09] sorry, what's going on? [20:38:11] ah [20:38:14] something about yossarian-bot and servers? [20:38:15] woodruffw: i'll ping you later [20:38:19] alright [20:38:20] kk [20:38:20] let's keep going iangcarroll [20:38:27] added meetbot to todos [20:38:37] Hack Coop (@rubinovitz) [20:38:40] is rubinovitz here [20:38:40] are you there rubinovitz? [20:38:50] rubinovitz [20:38:51] hm [20:38:52] I think she went to bed [20:38:55] oh, hi [20:38:58] i disagree [20:39:01] yay notifications [20:39:02] :P [20:39:07] She has arrived! [20:39:07] i am technically coding in bed. good game. [20:39:10] say your thing about the co-op please [20:39:25] ok this will take a min to type out [20:40:07] * arirawr plays jeopardy theme [20:40:33] *** Joins: smudkavi (~smudkavi@208.72.125.2) [20:40:35] I bought hack.coop because I wanted their to be a hacker cooperative umbrella org. I finally got them/domains.coop to approve me as an official co-op so I can use the url now [20:40:35] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m9lN13hpk4 [20:40:35] Title: Countdown Clock 2009 [20:40:49] anyway, HX community is good stuff so if you have any ideas for it, holler [20:41:07] I had some project ideas I wanted to do from it as far as content creation back in the days of HH, but am kinda burnt right now [20:41:22] so [20:41:26] i don't know what any of this means [20:41:28] sorry [20:41:40] rubinovitz I loved your ideas about having creators get credit for their work [20:41:42] yeah it might be too early for you [20:41:43] can you explain some more what it is? [20:41:47] it means she wants to work on projects with HX users I guess? and have Admins help promote it [20:41:57] well the idea is its a more former ownership structure [20:41:58] Same [20:42:01] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative [20:42:01] Title: Cooperative - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [20:42:15] so if you're working on things and want former shared ownership it's there [20:42:16] I want to unleash the combined power of 22,000 hackathon hackers [20:42:28] ... [20:42:31] what does former shared ownership mean [20:42:32] *** Joins: relisher (~arelin@165.123.250.145) [20:42:32] That is a terrifying concept. [20:42:49] this is stuff i never deal with, sorry again [20:42:51] @jfkingsley we are legion. we are hx. [20:43:01] SamuelKelemen cut it out pls [20:43:07] +1 majora [20:43:15] ouch bad memories samuelkelemen [20:43:24] let's keep the conversation limited/on topic, especially when people are typing/being asked questions [20:43:25] cut the chatter folks [20:43:27] =( I was being serious. [20:44:03] Everybody take a chill pill. [20:44:27] it really depends on the co-ops structure. I can post the bylaws later (i sent a really rough draft to the domains.coop people). I'll try to do an example [20:44:35] an example would be great [20:44:37] So basically it's an umbrella co-operative for HX members/other hacking people to work on group projects? [20:44:43] hey [20:44:44] At least, that's what i've gathered thus far [20:44:44] I'm back [20:44:49] Welcome back [20:44:55] cydrobolt: we've already discussed meetbot [20:45:04] :( [20:45:08] no worries [20:45:13] ~15 minutes left all~ [20:45:14] we'll talk later [20:45:35] okay [20:45:47] I want to make a udemy online course someone on HX on how to do software contracting. I don't know him well, but if i do it through the co-op I can legally make sure him and i get the profits [20:46:02] its all stuff I would need to explain better in bylaws [20:46:36] interesting [20:46:45] so i can wait for next meeting to talk about it. the idea is to catalyze new projects in a feedback loop by giving the proceeds back to the people doing the projects [20:46:45] i'd be interested in hearing more with some bylaws [20:46:50] +1 [20:46:59] are we registered as a business entity though? sorry if I missed this [20:47:01] yeah i can come back next mtg with a better pitch. just got the approval for the domain today. so we legit [20:47:01] +1 [20:47:05] no relisher [20:47:15] what rubinovitz is doing might be [20:47:18] by the way, would any of the admins like admin access to yossarian-bot to enable/disable plugins? [20:47:30] relisher: yes I think I am going to go that route. [20:47:35] I'm down to develop hack coop stuff inside or outside of HX rubinovitz [20:47:45] HX isn't registered as an official anything afaik [20:47:50] woodruffw: probably not, just because of the fact we change every 3 months [20:47:52] that's why we are two pound signs instead of one [20:47:58] on freenode [20:47:59] okay [20:48:01] iangcarroll: got it [20:48:03] so we're going to go to questions [20:48:04] woodruffw: there's time at the end of off topic stuff [20:48:12] /s/of/for/ [20:48:16] as I believe we've hit the end of our agenda items [20:48:16] And I don't understand why it should hx that is the cooperative - it seems like a very separate initiative [20:48:18] alright, ping me then [20:48:20] * woodruffw idles [20:48:26] *it should be hx [20:48:36] so [20:48:45] i'm sure at least one person has a question [20:48:52] relisher: it is a separate initiative, one that we may be able to partake in [20:48:55] relisher: it's more like if you had a big project that you wanted your ownership protected on [20:48:57] we should talk [20:49:13] Ok - makes sense now, thanks for clearing up [20:49:40] questions concerns compliments queries comments? [20:49:47] everyone looks amazing. [20:49:51] lol [20:49:54] ;) [20:50:16] So great hearing all your voices tonight [20:50:18] :P [20:50:25] is HX Ski Trip a go? [20:50:31] lolol [20:50:32] totes [20:50:41] that'd be sick [20:50:45] make your way up to my part of the continent [20:50:47] i'd fly to Canada for it [20:50:48] The first official subgroup: HX Ski Trip [20:50:59] more of an event... [20:51:04] ^ [20:51:14] Fair enough [20:51:24] well [20:51:27] Any more Qs or are we done? [20:51:32] isn't that automotive one a subgroup [20:51:35] iangcarroll: meeting done? [20:51:38] HX Takes Mont-Tremblant [20:51:52] yeah [20:51:56] meeting adjourned [20:51:57] cool [20:51:58] :gavel: [20:52:04] Okay, sweet! Nice to see you all. :D [20:52:06] today's log http://hx.vishwin.info/%23%23hx-admin/2016-02-02.log [20:52:09] thx for feedback [20:52:12] bai [20:52:20] McHacks ski trip see y'all on the 20th [20:52:20] we are at 61 KiB today [20:52:21] of course, if anyone has questions we idle here every day so [20:52:29] ? [20:52:34] all day, evry day [20:52:35] McHacks? [20:52:40] mcgill hackathon [20:52:41] oh yissss mchacks [20:52:43] eww mchacks [20:52:45] In Montreal ~ [20:52:46] they rejected me [20:53:01] skasturi: don't you eww mchacks [20:53:12] * iangcarroll got rejected from MHacks :( [20:53:13] MChacks has a few SEO problems.. [20:53:14] is it mlh? [20:53:19] It is [20:53:23] They seriously downsized this year [20:53:25] No it's not [20:53:28] not MLHG [20:53:30] *MLH [20:53:32] Hm? I thought it was [20:53:37] I trust you tho [20:53:39] guarantee it's not [20:53:40] holy shit [20:53:47] I dropped MHacks this year.. [20:53:48] would be kek if it was MLG and went full CdT [20:53:48] I used to organize it [20:53:49] if you right click the webpage [20:53:52] it opens a pdf [20:53:55] Probably do it next year again, keep the flow up [20:54:47] someone tag me in some good hackahtons [20:54:54] SamuelKelemen: I am not able to reproduce your right-clicking lol [20:55:10] right the text "Canadas most _____ hackathon!" [20:55:13] we should funnel some of this to ##hx [20:55:20] maybe all of it [20:55:35] That runs to the Sponsorship PDF [20:55:37] I think that's intended. 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[23:21:33] refer to shitpoll in meta [23:23:30] i don't see a poll? [23:24:16] https://www.facebook.com/groups/hxmeta/permalink/588061094679707/?qa_ref=qd [23:24:17] Title: Log into Facebook | Facebook [23:24:55] ugh [23:24:57] iangcarroll: majora [23:25:00] yuh. [23:25:03] can you deal with this [23:25:07] r0bby: why? [23:25:21] this is strike one on the road to a ban [23:26:13] when i refresh the page i don't see it.. [23:26:15] so confused [23:26:51] oh i see it [23:26:56] nvmd [23:27:19] majora: iangcarroll you there? [23:27:25] the books post is a repost i think [23:35:33] *** Quits: SamuelKelemen (442396c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.35.150.201) (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) [23:40:05] *** Joins: lablayers (uid55894@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qdusjdfuleahyggd) [23:58:45] I just got back [23:58:50] I messaged iangcarroll [23:59:53] okay the guy changed his post so it isn't a repost [23:59:56] that's fine with me