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[16:08:11] heroku still doesn't ship a PDO postgres driver with it [16:08:32] i moved off of their buildpacks though so actually I think I can use it now [16:08:46] so we're developping a CTF platform at facebook [16:08:51] and this guy was using PHP [16:08:57] and i tried out switching over to hack [16:08:59] and it worked fine [16:09:09] you don't have to make everything strict at first [16:09:12] yeah, 90% of the time it works 100% of the time [16:09:15] you can update things bit by bit [16:09:26] 90% is a lot for the typechecking gains you'll get [16:09:37] `print('foo').print('bar')` [16:09:43] there's my argument for switching [16:09:55] might've had an issue with mcrypt too, but now that we're off heroku's buildpacks i can probably fix it [16:09:58] and lol [16:10:05] that's more of an argument for not hiring whoever wrote that :p [16:10:27] lol [16:10:30] no one wrote that [16:10:45] so the pipe operator from OCaml got added to hack today [16:10:58] and someone tried `print('foo') |> print('bar')` [16:11:02] and was wondering why it wasn't working [16:11:04] lol [16:11:22] >>> a = 257 [16:11:22] >>> b = 257 [16:11:22] >>> a is b [16:11:22] False [16:11:27] there's my argument :p [16:11:45] >>> a = 256 [16:11:45] >>> b = 256 [16:11:45] >>> a is b [16:11:45] True [16:11:50] lmao [16:12:55] lol python [16:19:00] come to think of it [16:19:18] i don't think the python issue is that bad [16:20:54] still better than php [16:20:57] right [16:21:05] so it's doing a pointer comparison (obviously) [16:21:14] and i'm guessing that the first 256 numbers share the same object [16:21:24] for performance reasons [16:21:55] i took it from a presentation that explains it [16:21:57] if you want it [16:22:14] i just googled 'python wats' :p [16:23:48] >when the language is counterintuitively smart [16:29:46] lol [17:08:08] uh [17:08:35] is there a name for that? there is one, it's like string interning for ints, but I don't remember [17:09:02] "integer cache" [17:15:25] in other strange python things: [17:15:34] >>> type((lambda: 1.0, lambda: 1)[1]()) [17:15:34] [17:33:37] leap motion sale: http://store-us.leapmotion.com/ [17:33:37] Title: Leap Motion Store [17:33:50] considering getting one since i'm getting the oculus [17:36:38] i dunno [17:36:42] VR is kidna eh... 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[17:38:06] i think i've tried nearly every iteration of the Rift [17:38:11] gsingh93: i mean its cool [17:38:20] but i can't see myself doing work in a purely VR world like some people are saying [17:38:28] lol [17:38:30] i don't even think it works for most video games or interactive experience [17:38:30] "work" [17:38:32] i just want to play some games [17:38:38] i mean [17:38:44] there are like 100 games for the rift at launch [17:38:44] i think there are going to be some absolutely amazing games on VR [17:39:04] but just as i play most games on mobile instead of a big TV, i don't see myself playing games in VR [17:39:45] because, think about how impatiently you use a computer or a smartphone [17:39:52] i'm switching between apps maybe... every one minute? [17:39:56] on average [17:40:04] huh [17:40:06] well [17:40:07] can you really see yourself putting on VR googles and taking them off every ~10 minutes? [17:40:09] to each his own [17:40:18] oh for sure [17:40:20] i play with my GearVR pretty often [17:40:25] put it on for an hour at a time [17:40:30] oh man [17:40:36] i have no idea how you can do an hour [17:40:38] i get sick [17:40:50] yea, i'm lucky [17:40:55] i think Gear/Cardboard is probably the most promising space though [17:40:55] i do get sick with certain things [17:41:03] (titans of space made me slightly sick) [17:41:06] because, it isn't TOO difficult to stick your phone in [17:41:11] but other than that it's fine [17:41:17] and i can definitely see myself doing ~30 minute sessions [17:41:35] i dunno [17:41:42] did you get sick when using the latest rift/vive? [17:41:45] i'd assume not [17:41:48] gsingh93: definitely not [17:41:52] didn't think so [17:41:52] but the Vive demo was fairly short [17:41:56] which demo? 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[22:11:22] give em my number [22:12:06] google recruiting <<< [22:16:16] !isitup quora.com [22:16:17] Clinteger: quora.com is currently online [301]. [22:16:20] ಠ_ಠ [22:21:29] give facebook my number [22:22:28] *** Joins: nimajneb (~roytenber@casewireless10.CWRU.Edu) [22:22:32] I didn't realize that Uber was GV's biggest investment [22:22:34] (http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/28/bill-maris-on-algorithms-zenefits-and-increasing-gvs-yearly-fund-to-500-million/) [22:22:35] Title: Unknown [22:23:29] but, also interestingly: [22:23:32] TC: What’s your second biggest, just out of curiosity? [22:23:32] BM: Flatiron Health, we put in close to $130 million. It’s a health oncology company based in New York. It’s a great company [run by] former Googlers who are on an absolute tear and you never hear about them really. 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