[15:24:37] <m0shbear> c++ type lists are awkward to make expressions out of
[15:38:36] <gsingh93> c++ is hard to make code out of
[15:57:54] <m0shbear> templates make the typing system less bad. but it's still pretty bad and there's minimal syntactic sugar
[15:58:44] <m0shbear> but it's less bad than c since you can actually express a subset of function idioms
[16:05:17] <gsingh93> why don't you write code in a type system that's good instead of less bad?
[16:08:13] <iangcarroll> ^ like php
[16:16:45] <gsingh93> yea, like php
[16:16:47] <gsingh93> (http://www.phpwtf.org/)
[16:16:47] <yossarian-bot> Title: Unknown
[16:25:49] <m0shbear> gsingh93: because there's no ibm-supported build of ghc for z/os :^)
[16:36:23] <gsingh93> what are you doing on z/os?
[16:37:01] <m0shbear> nda'd things
[16:38:53] <gsingh93> i bet it wouldn't be hard to build rust for z/os :P
[16:39:13] <gsingh93> hard is a relative term there
[16:40:26] <m0shbear> rust's lack of a boost- or java-sized library is the big reason i don't particularly care of it tbh
[16:41:27] <gsingh93> can you be more specific?
[16:41:29] <gsingh93> what exactly is missing
[17:28:00] <m0shbear> http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Verizon-Begins-Charging-a-Fee-Just-to-Use-an-Older-Router-137445
[17:28:00] <yossarian-bot> Title: Verizon Begins Charging a Fee Just to Use an Older Router | DSLReports, ISP Information
[17:28:03] <m0shbear> woooow
[17:33:32] <clinth> lol as massive as .net is I still find it missing things :-)
[23:34:40] <clinth> poor stack overflow
[23:56:31] <vishwin> lol stack overflow
[23:56:39] <vishwin> errrr
[23:56:46] <vishwin> lol people *depending* on stack overflow
[23:59:05] <clinth> lol
[23:59:19] <clinth> one of the other interns at work today was like "welp, stack overflow is down. i'll be on the couches"