[00:01:28] <woodruffw> shameless blog advertising http://blog.woodruffw.us/2016/10/07/Decoding-the-Metrocard-Part-2.5
[00:01:28] <yossarian-bot> Title: Decoding the MetroCard, Part 2.5: Early Results
[00:14:40] <vishwin> lol
[00:15:01] <vishwin> the SEPTA Key, which will be the new payment system for philly, is pretty much designed to be open
[00:15:07] <vishwin> as in an open standard of sorts
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[00:28:13] <woodruffw> that's a step in the right direction
[00:28:48] <woodruffw> although i have to give it to the MTA/Cubic, they've devised a surprisingly resilient closed system
[00:29:55] <vishwin> well, SEPTA Key is designed as you either load weekly or monthly passes or a travel wallet
[00:30:03] <vishwin> for the Key card
[00:30:21] <vishwin> but if you have a contactless credit/debit card or NFC-enabled phone, it'll also work
[00:30:40] <vishwin> however, you only get the discounted fares with the actual Key card
[00:32:21] <vishwin> discounted fares being the "passes" and the tokens that'll be deprecated after Key fully rolls out
[00:33:07] <vishwin> otherwise, you're paying the full sucker fare of $2.25 compared to the $1.80 per ride on a token/Key travel wallet
[00:33:26] <woodruffw> oic
[00:34:31] <vishwin> http://www.septa.org/key/index.html
[00:34:31] <yossarian-bot> Title: SEPTA | Introducing the Future of Fare Payment at SEPTA
[00:36:10] <woodruffw> i think i've taken septa a few times before, although i think i transfered from NJT and had a paper ticket
[00:36:32] <vishwin> yeah you can't use tokens on regional rail, only tickets, cash and trailpasses
[00:36:46] <vishwin> cash being buying the ticket on-board
[00:37:04] <woodruffw> got it
[00:37:40] <vishwin> half of it's because regional rail has distance-based zones
[00:38:11] <woodruffw> yeah, i figured they couldn't run an operating budget for regional rail on a $1.80 fare
[00:38:39] <vishwin> or even the $2.25 transit fare.
[00:38:53] <woodruffw> yep
[00:39:02] <vishwin> the cheapest regional rail fare is $3.50 between any two non-center city regional rail stations on the same line
[00:39:19] <vishwin> using a ticket bought in advance
[00:39:40] <woodruffw> wow, that's still pretty cheap. i think the cheapest in maryland is $5, going all the way up to $13(?)
[00:39:54] <woodruffw> at least, between DC and Baltimore
[00:40:07] <vishwin> an evening/weekend zone 1/2 ticket, in advance is $3.75, on-board cash is $5
[00:41:05] <vishwin> whereas the ticket between center city and either the west trenton or trention stations is $9 in advance, $10 on-board
[00:41:44] <vishwin> but, a trip passing through center city costs $8.50 in advance, $9 on-board no matter the endpoints
[00:42:00] <woodruffw> cool
[00:42:14] <vishwin> so it's actually cheaper for me to ride the train from my house in suburbia to trention than to hop on in center city
[00:42:30] <vishwin> s/trention/trenton/
[00:42:30] <yossarian-bot> vishwin probably meant: so it's actually cheaper for me to ride the train from my house in suburbia to trenton than to hop on in center city
[00:43:55] <vishwin> regardless, SEPTA fares are dirt cheap when you consider how poorly funded they are compared to comparable transit systems in north america
[00:44:37] <woodruffw> yeah, that's pretty unusual
[00:44:43] <vishwin> probably the closest in ridership and complexity to SEPTA are the MBTA
[00:45:06] <vishwin> SEPTA only gets a tiny fraction of how much funding the MBTA gets.
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[20:23:28] <gsingh93> someone right a regex to match x^(n^2)
[20:23:37] <gsingh93> so a square number of x's
[20:23:41] <gsingh93> write*
[20:26:47] <woodruffw> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2045175/regex-match-even-number-of-letters
[20:26:48] <yossarian-bot> Title: python - Regex match even number of letters - Stack Overflow
[20:27:02] <woodruffw> oh, square, not even
[20:27:05] <woodruffw> hmm
[21:15:46] <m0shbear> hm. are you sure you can even parse { a . b^n . c | sqrt(n) \in N } with a regular automaton?
[21:17:31] <m0shbear> the problem with regexes is that they're inherently linear
[21:18:52] <m0shbear> (yes i know fancy backtracking exists, but still)